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In response to: post by Mixpert

G/S/C definitely made evolution stones scarce, yeah - you can get one of each from Bill's grandfather in postgame Kanto, but that's about it. Crystal added the ability for certain PokéGear trainers to find evolution stones and call to give them to you, but that's also rare (it's a separate event from when they want a rematch, though, I believe, not a post-rematch thing). I expect the devs wanted you to go for Espeon/Umbreon.

» Reply to this [22/04/2025 12:06:09]

Mixpert

Hey! I may have stumbled on something that I didn’t see anywhere on Bulbapedia or on Smogon’s in-game guides for the Johto games, and I immediately thought of this page.

There’s actually no legitimate way to get a Vaporeon, Jolteon, or Flareon before beating the Elite Four for the first time in GSCHGSS unless you do a trade and receive a Pokémon holding one of the relevant evolutionary stones. The Fire, Water, and Thunder Stones can’t be obtained from the Pokéathlon Dome until you get the National Dex, the Bug-Catching contest has the same restriction, they’re not found on the ground anywhere, and although certain Pokégear rematch trainers are supposed to hand them out, the one trainer I’ve tried rematching about five times so far (Fisherman Tully, who is supposed to hand out Water Stones post-match) has not said or given anything out after any of those matches.

I never noticed this because I’ve always used Espeon in playthroughs for its fantastic coverage against the Elite Four (Bite/Psybeam in the originals, Psybeam and Shadow Ball in the remakes), but the more I read, the more I’m convinced that Umbreon and Espeon are actually your only evolution options before beating the E4.

» Reply to this [19/04/2025 11:25:05]

sara

I was replaying Crystal and stumbled across this page while trying to get an Umbreon. your site is so cute! <3

» Reply to this [21/02/2025 00:50:15]