Butterfree
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Rule four is basically that if there are four Voltorb, you can eliminate all the numbers except the total number for the row. So if there's a 1/4 row, you can put the Voltorb and 1 markers on every square in it (eliminating two and three); if there's a 2/4 row, you can put the Voltorb and 2 markers on every square in it (eliminating one and three); and if there's a 3/4 row, you can put the Voltorb and 3 markers on every square (eliminating one and two).



Rule five says that for every row for which the total and Voltorb numbers add up to six - 1/5, 2/4, 3/3 - you can eliminate the possibility of threes (and thus place the Voltorb, one and two markers on the squares).



Rule seven is basically that you only ever want to take markers away, with the reservation that no markers at all are equivalent to having all four. You don't put them back on. So if you've eliminated threes from a square and then a rule tells you you can eliminate ones from that square, you should be left with the Voltorb and 2 markers, with 1 and 3 both eliminated. It's pretty much a supplementary rule.



Rules six, eight and nine are rather more complicated and a bit more mathy, so it may be wise to start off without them, using only the other rules.



Do you get the idea behind the generalizing portion? Because that's probably the most important part of the guide, really.



1/8192 = 0.000122, so that would be about 0.0122%, yes.



I'm not sure what you're saying about the natures. Could you explain a bit better?

[21/08/2010 14:31:12]

Condabra

As well as the fact that, uh, Bashful appears to be the perfect nature for me. Pokemon get the highest "potential" (whatever that means) out of that nature… ._.

[21/08/2010 08:22:40]

Condabra

Also, what kind of percentage would a 1 in 8192 chance be? 0.01%?

[21/08/2010 08:21:35]

Condabra

A lot of the guide parts confuse me, mostly rules #4-#9. The first three are the only ones I can fully understand.

And since I am no good at this kind of game, to me, Voltorb Flip is 90% luck.

[21/08/2010 08:20:37]

Jirachi'sBFF

Hi guys!

[21/08/2010 01:35:23]

Jirachi'sBFF

Ok, ok.

[19/08/2010 18:29:06]

Butterfree
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My point is you don't have bad luck at all, because there is no reason you should expect to have more than one Flygon with any given nature if you catch thirty of them.

[19/08/2010 18:27:22]

Jirachi'sBFF

The ONLYshiny I ever got was the shiny Gyarados in HGSS.



My sis found a shiny Hoppip in her Heartgold but she lost it.

[19/08/2010 18:02:53]

Bob

Also, while trying to get a Feebas for my other game (to complete the Hoenn Dex), I found a shiny Carvanha. :3

[19/08/2010 17:14:35]

Jirachi'sBFF

You Have Godly Luck. I never tried Feebas fishing because I think I have a Milotic. And by that I mean I don't think I need one yet.

[19/08/2010 16:47:15]

Bob

Speaking of bad luck, I recently went Feebas fishing. I fished twice in the first square, then decided to fish three times in the rest of the squares. After I finished the third square, I went back and fished once in the first…guess what? I found a Feebas!

It was awesome.

[19/08/2010 16:14:54]

Jirachi'sBFF

Then I guess I have really bad luck then. ^_^

[19/08/2010 16:12:03]

Butterfree
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That's not really strange, considering there are twenty-five possible natures - out of thirty Flygon, any particular nature is likeliest to appear only once.

[19/08/2010 14:33:14]

Jirachi'sBFF

Have you ever mass- captured a certain Pokemon for a certain nature only to find out that none of the Pokemon you caught had none of those natures? I have over 30 Flygons that I caught(don't even ask) and only 1 of them had a Rash nature! 0_0

[19/08/2010 14:15:34]

Butterfree
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What parts are confusing you?

[19/08/2010 09:06:41]

Condabra

I also find it very ironic that my Dialga has a bashful nature. ._.

[19/08/2010 04:59:46]

Condabra

I need a simpler guide for Voltorb Flip. Butterfree, your one is far too complicated for me. ._.

[19/08/2010 04:58:59]

Ferb

You were right that IS disturbing!

[19/08/2010 02:07:59]

Jirachi'sBFF

Scary. Just plain scary. \o/ _/\_

Data

Jirachi, Bashful, Lv.38 - HP: 135 (31/3) | Atk: 92 (31/0) | Def: 90 (24/4) | Sp.Atk: 92 (31/0) | Sp.Def: 92 (31/0) | Spd: 91 (27/0) | Hidden Power: 67, ICE | Format: stat (IV/EP)

IVs

% Min Max

HP 100 31 31

Atk 100 31 31

Def 33 23 25

Sp.Atk 100 31 31

Sp.Def 100 31 31

Spd 50 27 28



I got all this data from an IV cal. Is this a good thing? Thanks. ^-^

[18/08/2010 15:54:21]

Frostagin

O.o



Ok, that IS creepy.

[18/08/2010 15:20:13]